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TheBrickers

15 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2009 :  22:34:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know a few years ago, someone cae around getting signatures to modify our deed restrictions to allow for sheds (with siding, shingles, etc.) - did anything ever come of that? Are sheds still not allowed? i know some have built them up against their house to make it look like part of the house. Is this our only option? What would it take to get those signatures and try again to make them alowable?

pcal

74 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2009 :  13:52:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
technically sheds are not allowed. I know of some sheds that have been built with no consequences......there was talk of allowing them or changing the deed restrictions, but it actually was never done...
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dstem33

42 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2009 :  22:03:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont think a shed that is well maintained would be a problem. But, I heard they were not allowed. Although, not too many people really care what is allowed and what is not because the HOA doesn't seem to crack down on things..just collect what money they can and keep the grass cut. It's hard for people to respect the rules when they are not inforced. Seems in the past few years, people have been doing what they want.
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cjones32

10 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2009 :  00:42:06  Show Profile  Visit cjones32's Homepage  Send cjones32 an AOL message  Send cjones32 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
unfortunately, the rules are not enforced because we don't have much of a homeowners association anymore. The reason for this is that nobody will take on being an officer anymore because of the "hicks" that threatened the previous officers with bodily harm because they were just doing there jobs that they were elected (again, by the homeowners). So, it's very interesting to me that so many people are fighting for rule enforcement, when just a few months ago, people were threatening the people enforcing the rules. I guess we now just have to deal with what we created!
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pcal

74 Posts

Posted - 08/17/2009 :  15:13:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also...lets all keep in mind that evening with a "fully funcitoning" HOA and board members...we cannot ENFORCE zoning...such as sheds...we could take the people to court...but even then its VERY EXPENSIVE and we'd be spending upwards of 5 thousand to get a court order to have them take down the shed...then if they didn't there is no real enforcement method......As I've said before, I try to draw a line of whats important and whats not. I call the city for many things like abandoned/unlicensed vehicles, long grass, run down properties, junk in yards, broken windows, broken garage doors, things like that...those things the city will enforce/issue citations. if someone has a shed, they would enforce that, because it's not against city zoning...it's just against the HOA at Woods at Jefferson....
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Monk

70 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2009 :  08:35:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People forget that MI really fell short in drafting the deed restrictions. They forgot to add enforcement powers and that's where the issue is. It's not just about sheds too, people have been installing 6ft privacy fences from day one. I built my fence to the required height which is 5ft. If you remember, the HOA attempted to modify the deed restrictions to give them the power to enforce a few years ago. It failed miserably.

Personally, I think that restricting sheds and 6ft fences are redundant. There have been a few that cry "what if it becomes an eyesore????" That's exactly the problem, WHAT IF!!!!! You might as well say don't drive your cars because WHAT IF you get in an accident. If a shed, fence, or even a house becomes dilipidated then you call the city and they can and will enforce the law. Too many times I see HOAs get too powerful for their own good. The main purpose of HOAs is to manage "common property". This would be private owned parks, swimming pools, and land owned by the HOA. As is stands, The HOA owns nothing. The HOA cuts the front to be appealing to the community. In actuallity, each homeowner that is along Waggoner Rd. is bound by city law to upkeep their portion. The signs at the front are also on private property. Just food for thought!

OH, Pcal, can you email me? I have a question for you.
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adagiogray

2 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2010 :  11:43:07  Show Profile  Send adagiogray a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
This is more related to fences than sheds, but someone brings it up in this thread. Fences: I read somewhere else in this forum that 6' and under privacy fence requires no HOA approval.. Yet below someone mentions 5'. Our next door neighbor has a 6' wood privacy fence in back, and we're considering building one this spring ourselves.

Christopher Gray
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Monk

70 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2010 :  14:24:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris, in the Deed Restrictions it actually states that you are not supposed to build a fence higher than 5ft. Also, it must be made of wood. There are also a few plastic fences in the development too. Those are prohibited also. But once again, the problem we have is the HOA has limited to no power to enforce. City code states that you can have up to a 6ft fence and it does not need permits or approval. This law IS enforceable and in all honesty what we should be going by.
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whirabomber

4 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2010 :  16:29:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding sheds, my neighbor has one hidden amongst his woods (no complaints, they are good neighbors and the shed isn't an eyesore) so evidentally when it comes to sheds - no cry, no foul.

Also, what is the issue with "plastic" fencing? Aside from being more expensive than wood, relatively maintenance free (there are some sad looking wood fences here and there), and longer lasting, what is wrong with the material?
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Monk

70 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2010 :  16:21:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, there is nothing wrong with it. You have to remember that the deed restrictions limit things that the builder has no monetary interest in. It wasnt meant "for the good of the community."
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